------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAEDALUS RISING To: All Subject: November's Fire Date: Wed Sep 13 17:21:54 CDT 1995 Message number: 1 Reply to message number: unavailable The '96 election is coming up, and this base is the place to discuss it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPECTER To: Sandman Subject: Re: wellstone Date: Mon Oct 28 15:04:58 CST 1996 Message number: 2 Reply to message number: -3 S> I read about a republican representative that was crying about how S> the evil environmental movement had banned DDT and now because of S> this unwise action the cases of malaria have gone up. S> If we would allow the godly chemical industry to begin producing S> DDT again! That would be so great. We could give the economy a boost by allowing chemical companies to pump out toxic chemicals again. Think of all the workers they could employ. And then there's the workers we'd have to hire to clean up the waste. why... we could get the economy pumping again with a little help from our friend DDT. :) S> Widespread spraying could begin again. S> After all one good example of a species is all that we need. S> One bald eagle, 1 whooping crane, 1 Redwood. Is this not what we S> need? Cool. And then we just cryogenicly freeze the eagle, the crane and the redwood so that they'll be with us forever. Hey no extinction... We definitely gotta check this out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Specter Subject: Re: wellstone Date: Mon Oct 28 16:47:40 CST 1996 Message number: 3 Reply to message number: 2 S> That would be so great. We could give the economy a boost by allowing S> chemical companies to pump out toxic chemicals again. Think of all the S> workers they could employ. And then there's the workers we'd have to hire t S> Cool. And then we just cryogenicly freeze the eagle, the crane and the S> redwood so that they'll be with us forever. Hey no extinction... We S> definitely gotta check this out. While you are at it, cryogenically freeze a few of the workers too. People seem to forget that they are also living things and can be damaged by pollution. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SANDMAN To: DAEDALUS RISING Subject: Re: wellstone Date: Mon Oct 28 18:06:03 CST 1996 Message number: 4 Reply to message number: unavailable -=> Quoting Daedalus Rising to Sandman <=- S> Bad water. Bad air. Bad food. Dead ecosystems. S> All of these could be overcome with God's love. S> School Prayer and a return to are nation's Christian Heritage could S> fill the void of a destroyed environment. DR> Have you considered running for office? If the key to winning is not believing my own bullshit I'm in good shape. Religion is such a power tool of control that the money whores can't keep their hands off of it. The last thing that the 104th goofball Congress will do is pass their RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ACT to force prayer on the little feebs that attend are public schools. Yippy! Yippy! Future Republicans of Amerika! ... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (S)lap nearest innocent bystander. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPECTER To: Froggy Subject: Re: wellstone Date: Tue Oct 29 15:05:29 CST 1996 Message number: 5 Reply to message number: 3 F> While you are at it, cryogenically freeze a few of the workers too. F> People seem to forget that they are also living things and can be damaged by F> pollution. Indeed. When my arguments for preserving nature for its own sake fail to pesuade someone I like to remind them that if nature dies so do the people. We may be capable of adapting to a lot, but not a destroyed ecosystem. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SANDMAN To: SPECTER Subject: Re: wellstone Date: Wed Oct 30 23:57:54 CST 1996 Message number: 6 Reply to message number: unavailable -=> Quoting Specter to Sandman <=- Sp> That would be so great. We could give the economy a boost by allowing Sp> chemical companies to pump out toxic chemicals again. Think of all Sp> the workers they could employ. And then there's the workers we'd have Sp> to hire to clean up the waste. why... we could get the economy Sp> pumping again with a little help from our friend DDT. :) Let's not forget about lead. Mentally retarded children could provide low cost factory work! S> Widespread spraying could begin again. S> After all one good example of a species is all that we need. S> One bald eagle, 1 whooping crane, 1 Redwood. Is this not what we S> need? Sp> Cool. And then we just cryogenicly freeze the eagle, the crane and Sp> the redwood so that they'll be with us forever. Hey no extinction... Sp> We definitely gotta check this out. With new cyber technology we could just provide a virtual reality environment where artificial Rhinos, lions, tigers, and bears could be observed! We arrogant will make it yet! ... Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SANDMAN To: SPECTER Subject: Re: wellstone Date: Wed Oct 30 23:57:55 CST 1996 Message number: 7 Reply to message number: unavailable -=> Quoting Specter to Froggy <=- S> ... "Are they taking DDT?" (Quayle question to Manhattan AIDS clinic staff F> F> Not unless the Republicans get away with gutting all the F> environmental laws. Sp> God help us all if they do. Aye! God will be controlled by the Republicans. This seems to be a primary goal of the reb party. ... Sorry, Boss, we hit Sodom & Gomorrah instead. Lot got away. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPECTER To: Sandman Subject: Re: wellstone Date: Thu Oct 31 15:50:12 CST 1996 Message number: 8 Reply to message number: 6 S> Let's not forget about lead. S> Mentally retarded children could provide low cost factory work! Score! S> With new cyber technology we could just provide a virtual reality S> environment where artificial Rhinos, lions, tigers, and bears S> could be observed! Wow, great idea. Bill Gates could create an artificial environment web site with all the great lost species depicted in a realistic 3D environment connected through the aforementioned cyber technology. S> We arrogant will make it yet! Damn straight. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPECTER To: Sandman Subject: Re: wellstone Date: Thu Oct 31 15:51:46 CST 1996 Message number: 9 Reply to message number: 7 S> Sp> God help us all if they do. S> S> Aye! God will be controlled by the Republicans. S> S> This seems to be a primary goal of the reb party. Indeed. I hadn't thought about that, but you're right. I wonder what God would have to say about being controlled by the reb party? Nothing good I would assume. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Specter Subject: Re: wellstone Date: Thu Oct 31 20:52:00 CST 1996 Message number: 10 Reply to message number: 9 S> Aye! God will be controlled by the Republicans. S> S> This seems to be a primary goal of the reb party. S> S> Indeed. I hadn't thought about that, but you're right. I wonder what God S> would have to say about being controlled by the reb party? Nothing good I S> would assume. Easy. I am sure that they think that God *is* a Republican. I hate to tell them, but I talk to her all the time. She is a black lesbian. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: All Subject: Michael Moore Date: Thu Oct 31 22:41:44 CST 1996 Message number: 11 Reply to message number: unavailable On a late-night TV news show, Michael Moore was talking about his new book, the election, and other things. He called the presidential election "The evil of two lessers." Moore also had an interesting story about the CEO of Nike. He actually agreed to see Moore. Moore took in 2 round-trip tickets to Indonesia and told him that he wanted to show him the 12 year olds working at the Indonesian Nike factory and other abuses. HE AGREED TO GO!!!!! Moore seemed positive about it, sayiung that he actually seemed interesting in finding out for himself if the accusations were true. Activism is still alive and well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SANDMAN To: ALL Subject: Wellstone isa Bad Jew 2 Date: Fri Nov 01 13:13:08 CST 1996 Message number: 12 Reply to message number: unavailable Apparently Rudy flew in a couple of steel workers to announce that they saw Wellstone burn a flag sometime in the past. Pathetic! The flag alliance or some other goofy Anti-Flag Burning Ammendment scum is just about to go to town with an advertising blitz. There's Rudy holding the press conference with these witnesses in his last ditch effort to beat Wellstone. WELLSTONE IS A BAD JEW II ... Boschwitz stands for nothing and just wants his trophy back! ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAEDALUS RISING To: Froggy Subject: Re: Michael Moore Date: Fri Nov 01 18:03:21 CST 1996 Message number: 13 Reply to message number: 11 F> On a late-night TV news show, Michael Moore was talking about his F> new book, the election, and other things. He called the presidential F> election "The evil of two lessers." Yep, he said the same thing at Macalster a few weeks ago ... wish I could have seen his whole presentation, but some dolt booked too small of an auditorium. F> Moore also had an interesting story about the CEO of Nike. He F> actually agreed to see Moore. Moore took in 2 round-trip tickets to Indones F> and told him that he wanted to show him the 12 year olds working at the F> Indonesian Nike factory and other abuses. HE AGREED TO GO!!!!! Moore seem That's definately cool. I've never been able to buy the argument that these businessmen don't know where their cheap products are coming from. The adage about something that looks too good to be true, being too good to be true, is applicable. I was talking to someone the other day who does business in Asia. He got an offer in China for a shipment of *really cheap* paper punchers (or something to that effect). So, he asked to see the factory. His Chinese hosts kept repeating, "it's inconvenient"; he said that he'd go there himself, just give him the address. Finally, the Chinese had the shipment sent to Hong Kong `free of charge'; if only he'd forget about looking at the factory, they'd forget about the cost of shipping it there. Being an ethical businessman, he told them to go fuck themselves. The pursuit of profit is a compelling devil, isn't it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SANDMAN To: FROGGY Subject: Michael Moore Date: Fri Nov 01 18:24:41 CST 1996 Message number: 14 Reply to message number: unavailable -=> Quoting Froggy to All <=- Fr> Fr> On a late-night TV news show, Michael Moore was talking about Fr> his new book, the election, and other things. He called the Fr> presidential election "The evil of two lessers." Good old Moore saying what he believes. Fr> Moore also had an interesting story about the CEO of Nike. Fr> He actually agreed to see Moore. Moore took in 2 round-trip tickets Fr> to Indonesia and told him that he wanted to show him the 12 year olds Fr> working at the Indonesian Nike factory and other abuses. HE AGREED Fr> TO GO!!!!! Moore seemed positive about it, sayiung that he actually Fr> seemed interesting in finding out for himself if the accusations were Fr> true. Activism is still alive and well. Moore does lots of ironic things like this. On his tv show tv nation I saw the following: 1. He brought a gay choir to Jesse Helms house to sing. Jesse wasn't home, but his wife came out and waved & expressed that the Senator would have been pleased. 2. Gun Night on TV Nation where republican wives were learning how to shoot their guns. Militia members going to some amusement park to have fun. Some weapon nuts firing their mortars. Lots of kook statements were heard this night. 3. Lots of segments where Moore is harassing CEO's. Michael Moore is a great citizen and patriot. ... Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your taglines! ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Daedalus Rising Subject: Re: Michael Moore Date: Fri Nov 01 21:57:43 CST 1996 Message number: 15 Reply to message number: 13 F> Moore also had an interesting story about the CEO of Nike. He F> actually agreed to see Moore. Moore took in 2 round-trip tickets to Indones F> and told him that he wanted to show him the 12 year olds working at the F> Indonesian Nike factory and other abuses. HE AGREED TO GO!!!!! Moore seem DR> DR> That's definately cool. DR> DR> I was talking to someone the other day who does business in Asia. He got a DR> offer in China for a shipment of *really cheap* paper punchers (or somethin DR> to that effect). So, he asked to see the factory. DR> DR> His Chinese hosts kept repeating, "it's inconvenient"; he said that he'd g DR> there himself, just give him the address. Finally, the Chinese had the DR> shipment sent to Hong Kong `free of charge'; if only he'd forget about look DR> at the factory, they'd forget about the cost of shipping it there. Being an DR> ethical businessman, he told them to go fuck themselves. DR> DR> The pursuit of profit is a compelling devil, isn't it? That is definitely cool, too. We need to find better ways to reward ethical business people like this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAEDALUS RISING To: Froggy Subject: Re: Michael Moore Date: Sat Nov 02 14:27:12 CST 1996 Message number: 16 Reply to message number: 15 DR> The pursuit of profit is a compelling devil, isn't it? F> F> That is definitely cool, too. We need to find better ways to rewar F> ethical business people like this. I am, I'm taking more classes with him :-) There's one he's teaching on East Asian trade next spring I'm trying to sign up for, if it isn't filled by the time my name comes up. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Vote! Subject: Tuesday Date: Mon Nov 04 14:09:57 CST 1996 Message number: 17 Reply to message number: unavailable Tomorrow -- Tuesday, November 5, is election day. Don't forget to vote and tell all your friends to vote. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPECTER To: Froggy Subject: Re: wellstone Date: Mon Nov 04 17:12:28 CST 1996 Message number: 18 Reply to message number: 10 S> Indeed. I hadn't thought about that, but you're right. I wonder what God S> would have to say about being controlled by the reb party? Nothing good I S> would assume. F> F> Easy. I am sure that they think that God *is* a Republican. I hat F> to tell them, but I talk to her all the time. She is a black lesbian. Ooh. Not good for the Republicans. The Religious Right or whatever they are might have some explaining to do when they arrive in the hereafter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAEDALUS RISING To: Froggy Subject: Re: Tuesday Date: Mon Nov 04 20:20:44 CST 1996 Message number: 19 Reply to message number: 17 F> Tomorrow -- Tuesday, November 5, is election day. Don't forget to F> vote and tell all your friends to vote. And if you don't, we'll flay your skin and make hot dogs out of it. As you can tell, I need sleep. Badly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPECTER To: Daedalus Rising Subject: Re: Tuesday Date: Tue Nov 05 16:27:02 CST 1996 Message number: 20 Reply to message number: 19 F> Tomorrow -- Tuesday, November 5, is election day. Don't forget to F> vote and tell all your friends to vote. DR> DR> And if you don't, we'll flay your skin and make hot dogs out of it. Ahh! what about those of us who are denied the privelege (right) to vote because we're not old enough. Do we get special consideration? In any case I made sure my friends all voted, and they all did to my knowledge. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Specter Subject: Re: Tuesday Date: Tue Nov 05 17:34:01 CST 1996 Message number: 21 Reply to message number: 20 S> Ahh! what about those of us who are denied the privelege (right) to vote S> because we're not old enough. Do we get special consideration? In any case S> made sure my friends all voted, and they all did to my knowledge. You did your part. Some other young people did computer work for candidates, marched in parades, put up lawn signs, passed out literature, etc. All are needed. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPECTER To: Froggy Subject: Re: Tuesday Date: Wed Nov 06 16:56:30 CST 1996 Message number: 22 Reply to message number: 21 S> Ahh! what about those of us who are denied the privelege (right) to vote S> because we're not old enough. Do we get special consideration? In any case S> made sure my friends all voted, and they all did to my knowledge. F> F> You did your part. Some other young people did computer work for F> candidates, marched in parades, put up lawn signs, passed out literature, et F> All are needed. :) Ahh. Thank God some people care about what happens to the nation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SANDMAN To: ALL Subject: A little late Date: Wed Nov 06 17:39:49 CST 1996 Message number: 23 Reply to message number: unavailable PRESS CLIPS James Ledbetter 11/05/96 The Village Voice Last week, several reporters told the Voice that they would print or broadcast the charge that Bob Dole arranged for a woman's abortion in the early 1970s if they had another source in addition to Dr. Robert Crist, the Kansas City doctor who claims to have performed the procedure. Now there is a second source. Former Dole aide Stanley Hilton told the Voice last week that, in early 1980, ''Dole told me that he had impregnated a woman and taken her to Kansas to have an abortion.'' Hilton, who wrote the unauthorized Dole biography Senator for Sale, said that Dole specifically mentioned Dr. Crist: ''I remember his name because, ironically, it sounded like Christ.'' Dole was running for president at the time and, according to Hilton, was toying with the idea of not seeking reelection to the Senate. Dan Glickman, then a congressman from Kansas, was planning a run against Dole. ''He was concerned that Glickman knew about the abortion and would use it against him,'' said Hilton. (Glickman, now Clinton's secretary of agriculture, was not available for comment.) Dole's press office did not return calls seeking comment; last week, it denied Crist's allegations altogether. One question for Hilton is why he omitted this detail from his book, published by St. Martin's Press in 1995. Hilton, who says he left Dole's employ ''on good terms,'' said he wanted to put it in the book, but was told the publisher's attorneys would not allow him to do so without corroboration. Thomas Dunne, who edited Senator for Sale, says he does not recall any such conversation, adding that Hilton's manuscript ''was very long, and required a lot of cutting, and that was more than two years ago.'' Hilton's original 1993 book proposal contained a summary for a chapter involving Dole and several sex-related stories; the final book--which focuses on Dole's flip-flops and fundraising acumen--discusses none of the sex scandals. Hilton gave similar accounts last week on KMBZ-AM in Kansas City and on Alan Colmes's nationally syndicated radio show (the latter with me, briefly, as a fellow guest). The Kansas City Star and Washington Post--which have conducted lengthy investigations into Crist's allegations--are aware of Hilton's statements. As of Monday, neither had published any reference to the story; the Star, by the way, has endorsed Dole. Having spent the late summer trumpeting the tabloid-told affair between Dick Morris and prostitute Sherry Rowlands, the national media are now squirming to explain why they've largely ignored the story of Dole's mistress. The November 5 National Enquirer reports that ''Dole--who recently declared there's a 'moral crisis' in America--cheated on first wife Phyllis with stunning blue-eyed secretary Meredith Roberts.'' This romantic liaison reportedly took place for about two years, 1968 to 1969, while Dole was still married to his first wife Phyllis. Last Friday, the Daily News got a jump on this tale by publishing its own interview with Roberts. ''Of course it's true,'' Roberts told the News. According to the News, the Enquirer had offered Roberts $50,000 for her story, but she refused it, labeling any payment ''blood money.'' As we've learned in recent years, wherever tabloid reporters lie down, there's usually someone from the mainstream media in the same bunk. Roberts had told her story to The Washington Post back in August. (Sources tell the Voice that the Postman who interviewed Roberts was Charles Babcock; Babcock declined to comment.) The Post, however, decided not to publish Roberts' recollections. Although it appears to have done the most digging, the Post is not alone in holding back. As of Monday, The New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Wall Street Journal, and USA Today had all been silent, as had Time and U.S. News & World Report (Newsweek allowed a single reference to ''the ancient story, unearthed by a tabloid, about an alleged affair a quarter century ago.'') U.S. news outfits that did run some version of the story include CNN, the Fresno Bee, New York Post, Newsday, Newsweek, and various talk radio programs. In a prepared statement, Post executive editor Leonard Downie Jr. explained why his paper allowed itself to be scooped by the Enquirer: ''After completion of our reporting and extensive discussion with senior editors and reporters, I decided that the information we had about this personal relationship 28 years ago was not relevant to Robert J. Dole's current candidacy for president and did not meet our standards for the publication of information about the private lives of public officials.'' The standards, Downie explained in an interview, involve the misuse--or alleged misuse--of public office in extramarital activities. ''There's a big difference between {the Dole-Roberts story} and Gennifer Flowers or Paula Jones,'' Downie said, citing the fact that both women were employed by the state of Arkansas, and that state troopers were allegedly used to shuttle Clinton's lovers around. Downie added that a second, lesser factor is that Clinton's alleged dalliances were more recent than Dole's. Downie's statement contains an escape clause: ''We also recognize that our initial decision about publication can be overtaken by events if another news organization publishes a story and it creates such public interest that we now have an obligation to our readers to give them the facts we have gathered.'' Do the Enquirer and Daily News stories trip this wire? Sort of. On Friday, a Washington Times reporter shouted a mistress question at Dole, who responded,''You're worse than they are.'' (Intriguingly, this exchange did not make it into the pro-Dole Washington Times.) For the rest of the day, the Dole campaign kept reporters out of shouting range and threatened to bar anyone who did not comply from the rotating pool of scribes who are given temporary close access to the candidate. The Post used this pettiness as a reason to report, in Saturday's paper, its nonpublication of the Dole-Roberts affair--but still didn't use Roberts's name. On Monday, Downie told me, ''We have included what we will include in Saturday's paper. That is all we feel it is necessary to tell readers.'' In a narrow sense, Downie's rules seem responsible (although the Post, like everyone else, gave extensive treatment to the Morris-Rowland affair and to Gary Hart's monkey business, neither of which involved the misuse of public office). But by drawing the line at the Dole-Roberts story, the Post--and much of the national media--allows caricatures of the candidates to stand. If you believe Roberts, Dole cheated on his first wife for a few years, then dumped her for Kansas model Phyllis Wells. According to longtime Dole associate David Owen, quoted in the September 1996 Vanity Fair, ''There's no question that {Dole} was seeing {Wells} prior to being divorced.'' Maybe that alleged serial adultery doesn't, to use Downie's yardstick, raise ''obvious and timely questions about fitness for public office'' (although I suspect that, for at least some Americans, it does). When that candidate sends his current wife out on the campaign trail to boast about her husband's integrity and trustworthiness, however, the allegations of adultery certainly raise obvious and timely questions about when Dole's word can be trusted at all. DOCTORING DOLE James Ledbetter 10/29/96 The Village Voice KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI--More than a few listeners to Kansas City's radio show Friendly Fire on Monday October 21 no doubt spilled their morning coffee. Cohost Steve Glorioso announced that this week, he'd be doing a special series of reports on the story of a well-known Kansas City physician who says that, in the early 1970s, he performed an abortion on a woman who was accompanied to the {University of Kansas} Medical Center for the procedure by Senator Bob Dole. The physician also alleges that Dole arranged for the procedure and that it took place after hours.'' By coincidence, the physician in question, Robert Crist, is a former neighbor of Glorioso's. That acquaintance was one reason why he and his station, KMBZ--an ABC affiliate--were willing to throw a lit match onto what has been the '96 campaign's most labored-on, uncovered media story. Although Glorioso has his own local sources on this story, he is relying heavily on David Zimmerman's reporting and interviews with Crist, which have appeared in Zimmerman's New Yorkbased newsletter Probe. The national media have spent hundreds of hours investigating this story. For months, members of the national press have been crawling around Kansas City, trying to extract information from the locals, often retracing the path of the Kansas City Star, which has been investigating for more than a year. The Washington Post has had, by one account, six reporters traipse into town; the paper even made a long-term discount room arrangement with the Quarter Ridge Hotel. Asked for comment, Post managing editor Robert Kaiser said through an assistant,We never comment on stories that may or may not appear in the Post in the future.'' Others who have looked into the story include CBS, The Wall Street Journal, Time, and U.S. News & World Report. The Dole campaign has been ready for any eruption. Nelson Warfield, Dole's press secretary, told the Voice that the senator has a short and strong response: Ridiculous. It never happened.''' Warfield added that Crist's account has a number of inconsistencies and holes, and suggested that Crist could have a number of possible political motivations'' for making his charge. As far back as September 24 (the day after the latest issue of Probe was published), the Dole campaign had a sworn affidavit ready from Dr. Kermit Krantz, a onetime colleague of Crist's whom Crist places at the scene when the alleged procedure took place. Krantz swore that Robert J. Dole was not involved in any way with any kind of medical procedure that I either performed anywhere or had knowledge of being performed anywhere on any woman....Any rumors or reports about Senator Dole that contradict what I have stated herein are false and completely contradicted by the facts.'' (Krantz did not return several messages left for him by the Voice.) That sweeping denial would understandably lead many reporters to cut off their investigation. On the other hand, similar denials have accompanied most of the Clinton scandal stories--from Travelgate to the Mena airport cocaine tales--without killing off all media coverage. Thus the legend of Dole's Sunday-night abortion will not go away, even while its only firsthand source--Crist--remains elusive. Over the last month, Crist declined several interview requests by the Voice (including a visit to the Kansas City Planned Parenthood office where he works). O.J. characters aside, Crist may be the most sought-after media interview in the nation. Reporters have shown up at his house (although his phone number and address are unlisted). They have left messages and faxes for him, most of which have gone unreturned. Time even sent flowers and chocolates to Crist in an unsuccessful attempt to get him to speak. Crist's colleagues and friends note that he may be reluctant to give interviews because he has been under siege from antiabortion activists. Recently, Crist has been involved with two legal proceedings involving protestors, one of whom threatened him near his office. Although the crime was never tied to anyone, in 1993, shots were fired at Crist's house; a Crist colleague told the Voice that he wears a bulletproof vest to work. The Dole campaign suggested that Crist could be in danger of losing his medical license if he publicly discusses his clients, no matter how long ago any operation was performed. Nonetheless, Crist has given interviews this year to selected reporters confirming what he told Zimmerman. Whether Crist's account is reliable or not, it is no election-year late hit. Probe's initial interviews with Crist were conducted in 1987. Two of those interviews were taped; for others, conducted in person, Zimmerman has detailed notes. Moreover, the Voice and many other news organizations have interviewed friends and colleagues of Crist's to whom he told the Dole-abortion story as far back as 1979. Why, then, have major media been unwilling to publish or broadcast what they can or cannot confirm? Every media organization contacted by the Voice cited the fear of running a single-source story. We would have gone with this months ago if we could get someone else who was there to confirm it,'' one reporter told me. According to Crist's account, the people present when this took place were Crist, Dole, Krantz, Dr. Robert Carter, and the woman. Of these, Krantz, who was chief of obstetrics and gynecology at the Kansas Medical Center, appears to be working with the Dole campaign in an attempt to bury the story. Carter, who is now at the University of Texas, has issued a statement saying he does not recall the event. Although some reporters claim to have located the woman in question, she is evidently not confirming Crist's account for the record. Thus, a second source with firsthand knowledge of the event is unlikely to emerge. Secondly, there are apparently no extant records of this alleged procedure having been performed (Kansas legalized abortion in 1969). According to Crist's account in Probe, for high-profile patients at this time, the Medical Center would fill out a patient card with an alias and, assuming no complications, the records would later be destroyed. (This has not, however, prevented numerous media fishing expeditions at the university.) At the same time, three reporters who've worked on this story told the Voice that Dole's recent attacks on Clinton's character and abortion policies have irked them, providing renewed impetus to run some version of Crist's account. They note that Dole's 1974 campaign against Dr. William Roy featured fierce attacks on Roy for performing abortions, and that Dole has claimed credit for first making abortion a national political issue. Reached by the Voice, Dr. Roy said he had no firsthand knowledge of the Dole-abortion story, but added that he knows Crist and feels him credible. I don't know why Bob Crist would tell anything that was untrue. I've talked politics with him, and he's definitely not a liberal.'' There is a great deal to the alleged Dole-abortion story that remains murky. But, as Glorioso pointed out to me, his counterparts on right-wing radio have had tremendous success in turning Clinton-hostile accusers like Gary Aldrich, David Brock, and Sherry Rowlands into national media celebrities--whether they have one source or no sources. Crist is a credible professional with a great deal to lose if he's shading the truth. In a year when the media has torn a prostitute's story from a supermarket tabloid and called it news, Crist's story--complete with all appropriate denials and qualifications--ought to be told. -!- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 10 ! Origin: RIME NetHub ž MoonDog BBS žBklyn,NY (1:278/230) ... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (S)lap nearest innocent bystander. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAEDALUS RISING To: Specter Subject: Re: Tuesday Date: Thu Nov 07 16:27:09 CST 1996 Message number: 24 Reply to message number: 20 F> Tomorrow -- Tuesday, November 5, is election day. Don't forget to F> vote and tell all your friends to vote. DR> DR> And if you don't, we'll flay your skin and make hot dogs out of it. S> S> Ahh! what about those of us who are denied the privelege (right) to vote S> because we're not old enough. Do we get special consideration? In any case S> made sure my friends all voted, and they all did to my knowledge. Your job is to drag all your friends down to Saint Paul in January and ask them to lower the voting age. Best bet, ask for them to lower it to 16 for school board elections ... one step at a time. It might help to remind them that getting kids interested in voting in high school would make it more likely for them to vote when they turn 18. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Daedalus Rising Subject: Re: Tuesday Date: Thu Nov 07 17:34:24 CST 1996 Message number: 25 Reply to message number: 24 S> Ahh! what about those of us who are denied the privelege (right) to vote S> because we're not old enough. Do we get special consideration? In any case S> made sure my friends all voted, and they all did to my knowledge. DR> DR> Your job is to drag all your friends down to Saint Paul in January and ask DR> them to lower the voting age. Best bet, ask for them to lower it to 16 for DR> school board elections ... one step at a time. It might help to remind them DR> that getting kids interested in voting in high school would make it more DR> likely for them to vote when they turn 18. Good point! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPECTER To: Daedalus Rising Subject: Re: Tuesday Date: Sat Nov 09 09:35:28 CST 1996 Message number: 26 Reply to message number: 24 DR> Your job is to drag all your friends down to Saint Paul in January and ask DR> them to lower the voting age. Best bet, ask for them to lower it to 16 for DR> school board elections ... one step at a time. It might help to remind them DR> that getting kids interested in voting in high school would make it more DR> likely for them to vote when they turn 18. Sounds good to me. A couple years ago I wrote a letter for a civics class to my congressman stating that I wanted them to lower the voting age to 16. I got some letter written by a secretary that explained in piecemeal terms why 16 year olds just weren't ready to make "informed" decisions. Anyway I'll keep that in mind come January. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Specter Subject: Re: Tuesday Date: Sat Nov 09 09:57:01 CST 1996 Message number: 27 Reply to message number: 26 DR> Your job is to drag all your friends down to Saint Paul in January and ask DR> them to lower the voting age. Best bet, ask for them to lower it to 16 for DR> school board elections ... one step at a time. It might help to remind them S> Sounds good to me. A couple years ago I wrote a letter for a civics class t S> my congressman stating that I wanted them to lower the voting age to 16. I S> got some letter written by a secretary that explained in piecemeal terms why S> 16 year olds just weren't ready to make "informed" decisions. Anyway I'll ke S> that in mind come January. There is a difference. You got a form letter because they didn't know you as a person, possibly didn't take you seriously, thinking it was only a class assignment. This is where working for the candidate before the election makes a difference. He or she KNOWS who you are already, and that you are serious. It will also make a difference to go to the capitol in person, if possible, with a few other serious young people. Be sure hou have ideas. Do you think EVERY 16-year-old is mature and informed enough to vote? Should there be other requirements. like GPA, community activities, etc.? Why or why not? Never hurts to have them typed to give to a legislator, complete with name, address, telephone, and e-mail. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KRUSTY To: Froggy Subject: Re: Tuesday Date: Sat Nov 09 17:25:30 CST 1996 Message number: 28 Reply to message number: 27 F> ideas. Do you think EVERY 16-year-old is mature and informed enough to vote F> Should there be other requirements. like GPA, community activities, etc.? W 16 year olds watch TV and read newspapers or magazines just like everyone else, and I'd guess this is where the majority of Americans get their information about candidates. I can't see a situation happening that a 16 year old who isn't mature and informed enough to vote would actually go ahead and do so... just coz they lower the age to 16 doesn't mean every 16 year old will vote... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Krusty Subject: Re: Tuesday Date: Sun Nov 10 00:40:23 CST 1996 Message number: 29 Reply to message number: 28 F> ideas. Do you think EVERY 16-year-old is mature and informed enough to vote F> Should there be other requirements. like GPA, community activities, etc.? W K> K> 16 year olds watch TV and read newspapers or magazines just like everyone K> else, and I'd guess this is where the majority of Americans get their K> information about candidates. I can't see a situation happening that a 16 K> year old who isn't mature and informed enough to vote would actually go ahea K> and do so... just coz they lower the age to 16 doesn't mean every 16 year ol K> will vote... Most 16 year olds I know watch different things on TV and read different magazines than most adults. Neither group necessarily shows a lot of interest and maturity at all times. But take this BBS as an example. Before the March Caucuses, we had a lot of discussion and planned and met to plan caucus attendance. When it was all over, only 7 attended that meeting, only 1 was under 16. There have been occasions here where I was insulted by younger users for talking about all that "boring" politics and stuff. Even now, there are only a couple who are actually interested in how our country is being run. There is concern that parents will pressure their dependent children to vote their way, rather than allowing them to make up their own minds. I know that when I was 16, I had VERY different political and social attitudes from my parents, and they would have simply not given me a ride to the polls. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KRUSTY To: Froggy Subject: 16 year olds... Date: Sun Nov 10 08:50:24 CST 1996 Message number: 30 Reply to message number: unavailable You bring up some good points but I don't think that 16 year olds will let themselves be forced to go to the polls and vote for who their parents say. I think if anything they might just vote against their parents just to defy them dragging them out to the polls when they could be hanging out with their friends or whatnot. It's just I honestly don't see that great of a difference between a 16 year old and 18 year old. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Krusty Subject: Re: 16 year olds... Date: Sun Nov 10 09:56:52 CST 1996 Message number: 31 Reply to message number: 30 K> friends or whatnot. It's just I honestly don't see that great of a differen K> between a 16 year old and 18 year old. I do. I could not vote until I was 21, and then I lived in Washington, DC, which has no home rule and very little you could actually vote on. I had then been politically active since I was about 15. Since then, I was one of many who agitated to lower the voting age to 18. I spend a lot of time around the high schools and talking to teenagers. I can usually see a very clear line between 16 and 18 year olds. I do think it should be based on the individual, though, with some mechanism for screening and allowing youngsters to vote. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPECTER To: Froggy Subject: Re: Tuesday Date: Sun Nov 10 13:50:42 CST 1996 Message number: 32 Reply to message number: 27 F> There is a difference. You got a form letter because they didn't F> know you as a person, possibly didn't take you seriously, thinking it was on F> a class assignment. This is where working for the candidate before the Yes there is a difference, and I understand that they would give more credence to a group of 17 and 18 year olds who showed up at their doorstep. Actually it was a class assignment, I just found something I could strongly support and wrote to them about it. F> person, if possible, with a few other serious young people. Be sure hou hav F> ideas. Do you think EVERY 16-year-old is mature and informed enough to vote F> Should there be other requirements. like GPA, community activities, etc.? W F> or why not? Never hurts to have them typed to give to a legislator, complet It's quite hard to define requirements for voting, I think. I would say that such requirements might make sense for 16 year olds, but I rather think that many people would take issue to having a requirement beyond simple age tied in to voting. Similar to the protests of African Americans against voting tests in the South and such. On the other hand I think that a general age 16 vote would be possible. I doubt that 16 year olds could be pressured by parents into voting one way or another, and I think those that took the time to vote would most likely be among the best informed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SANDMAN To: ALL Subject: DNC News Date: Wed Nov 13 11:32:00 CST 1996 Message number: 33 Reply to message number: unavailable Subject: DNC News: FOUR MORE YEARS! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Welcome to DEMOCRATIC NEWS! An online publication of the Democratic National Committee. http://www.democrats.org Thursday, November 7, 1996 This issue includes: **** WELCOME HOME PRESIDENT CLINTON! **** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * President Clinton's Speech At Yesterday's WELCOME HOME RALLY The White House, South Lawn THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. (Applause.) Thank you. Thank you very much. (Applause.) Thank you. Well, you know, I really appreciate that lesson in history from the Vice President. (Laughter.) I'll tell you one thing -- you remember what John Nance Garner said about the vice presidency -- (laughter) -- he said it wasn't worth a warm -- what -- kettle of spit, or something like that. (Laughter.) That's before Al Gore got a hold of it. Nobody will ever say that again -- ever, ever, ever say that again. (Applause.) And just for your information, George Clinton of New York, doubtless a relative of mine -- (laughter) -- the only man in America ever to be the governor of a state in excess of 20 years. He served for 21 years as governor of New York. He served four years and then laid out and served 17 years, until he became Vice President. And that's a pretty good record. (Laughter.) It just sort of runs in the family, you know. (Laughter and applause.) I want to tell you all, first to the White House staff and to all the appointees who are here; to the members of the Clinton-Gore campaign, from our wonderful campaign manager, Peter Knight, on down; and to the members of -- the people who work for our Democratic Party campaign -- I want to say a special word of thanks to Don Fowler and Chris Dodd. They did a wonderful job. All the people at the party. (Applause.) To our terrific Cabinet over here on the left. You know, they've labored for four years to uphold the dignity of our government and they sort of changed their image today. (Laughter and applause.) That picture of Warren Christopher in that T-shirt gets out -- (laughter) -- he'll be on Letterman and Leno within 48 hours. (Applause.) I thank you all so much. Last night I had a chance to do something really quite wonderful for me. I was able to have a meeting with -- when I was home in Arkansas -- with everybody who ever worked for me there -- at least we invited them all -- the people who worked for me 20 years ago when I was Attorney General, the people who worked for me during all my five terms as Governor. And I told them something I want to tell you; that is I have always been a very hard-working, kind of hard-driving person. I'm always focused on the matter before me. Sometimes I don't say thank you enough. And I've always been kind of hard on myself, and sometimes I think just by omission I'm too hard on the people who work here. You have accomplished a phenomenal amount in the last four years, and you have proved that even in this vast country of ours where the government is only one part of our national partnership, and billions upon billions of decisions are made every day by people who are not in our government -- thank goodness, we are primarily a country of free individuals with a free enterprise system -- but you have proved again something that was clearly in doubt in 1992 at election time. You have proved that with disciplined, sustained, focused effort, America can be changed for the better. You have proved that our problems are not all intractable. You have proved that we can galvanize the energies of the American people and that we can, in fact, bring the deficit down. It's not a permanent feature of American life. We can, in fact, grow the economy on a sustained basis. We can, in fact, improve the education and the educational opportunities of our children. We can, in fact, lower the crime rate. And, in fact, if people will help us enough in communities across the country, we can even help to change some of the very difficult cultural patterns that had begun to develop in our country over the last several years. You all did that. Very often, I get the credit for the work you do, and then when something goes haywire, that if I make a mistake you have to try to figure out how to clean it up. (Laughter.) And I appreciate that. (Laughter.) And I'm sure you'll give you other opportunities in the year head. (Laughter.) I just want you to know, all of you, from the Cabinet, to the staff, to the appointees, to all the others who are here, you should be very proud of this. This is not -- (applause) -- this race was won because of the record we made and because of the plans we have, and because we have established in the minds of the American people that it's more than talk with us; that we work at it hard every day. All of us -- we work hard. And in the end that's what sustained us -- a vision, a strategy, hard work and success. And we have a lot more work to do. But when our work is done and when there is eight years of sustained disciplined effort, we will have gone a long way toward preparing our country for this new century. I can't even imagine what the world is going to be like, but I try to imagine it all the time -- 20 or 30 or 40 years from now. And we are lucky enough to just be here at a moment in history when it is our profound obligation to move the American people closer to what they believe by opening up new opportunities for people to live out their dreams, and when we have the opportunity to prove that we can actually reduce our problems. We have to keep working on that. We've got a lot to do. I talked a little about it last night. But I begin this new tenure with high opportunity and with renewed energy and with profound gratitude to the American people and to all of you. Two years ago not many people thought we would be here. But I believed if we just kept doing the right things, kept trying to do them in the right way, and kept working hard, and refused to be distracted by the things which dominate too much of our public life today, in the end the American people would render the right judgment. I am profoundly grateful for what they did last night and very, very grateful to all of you for making it possible. Thank you, and God bless you. (Applause.) ******** The Democratic Party Online http://www.democrats.org =========================================================================== = For help, send mail to majordomo@democrats.org with the message body = containing the word 'help' on a line by itself. =========================================================================== ... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?" ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SANDMAN To: ALL Subject: Racical Centrists? Date: Wed Nov 13 11:32:01 CST 1996 Message number: 34 Reply to message number: unavailable Ä Area: News of the US and World ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ From: Mediabeat@igc.apc.org Read: Yes Replied: No Subj: Clinton's Win for "Ultra- ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ From: Norman Solomon Subject: Clinton's Win for "Ultra-Centrism" From: Norman Solomon CLINTON TRIUMPH: A BIG WIN FOR "ULTRA-CENTRISTS" By Norman Solomon Now that Bill Clinton has sailed to victory, the press is awash in talk about his second term. Many pundits are advising the president to stay with the prevailing winds so that he can continue to triumph as a moderate. That would please a lot of Americans -- including most journalists -- who are wary of "ultra-liberals" and "ultra- conservatives." But we lack an appropriate label for the new breed of Democrats bent on hugging the political center as soon as their pollsters can find it. Let's call them "ultra-centrists." Moderate on the surface, the ultra-centrists are actually quite extreme about seeking the center of power's gravity. Their dedication to compromise is impressive...to the point of shamefulness. Few principles are so inviolate that they can't be spliced, diced or gutted. Of course, expediency is an old story in politics. But the Clintonites have a phenomenal knack for shredding their supposed ideals and turning the result into confetti to celebrate their exemplary moderation. Like much of the Washington press corps, the ultra-centrists see winning as proof of wisdom. More than ever, they are preoccupied with pragmatic matters, such as the lowest common denominator in the political math problem known as the electoral college. Meanwhile, many in the media business claim to be little more than flies on the national wall. "We're just paid observers," the Chicago Tribune's editorial-page editor told Newsweek. But, in tandem with top Democrats and Republicans, news media set the mainstream boundaries -- defining what merits repeated attention. In recent weeks, media piety about campaign contributions has been wondrous to behold. Megabucks have always flowed to politicians -- as well as mass media. If it's awful that the Democratic and Republican parties take huge corporate contributions, why is it fine for Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings and Dan Rather to get millions in pay every year from network owners General Electric, Disney and Westinghouse? Like their conservative compatriots, ultra-centrists don't ask such questions. Clinton and Al Gore join with GOP leaders to keep dipping into the same well as the big names of TV news. Shared assumptions are compatible with corporate agendas: maximizing profits while minimizing concern for people at the lower rungs of the economic ladder. In the words of a Nov. 4 Washington Post headline, "Democrats See Future in `Militant Centrism.'" So, what is "militant centrism"? The Post described it as "the drive to force an internal realignment of the national Democratic Party by wresting power from the party's liberal wing." The Sunday before the election, Clinton spoke at a black church in Tampa while Gore made the rounds of four black churches in Detroit -- attending to a core constituency that they'd spent much of the last four years ignoring. Nearly half of African- American children remain below the poverty line; the new welfare "reform" law will make the situation worse. This year, the media cacophony has all but drowned out voices asking why poverty is so widespread in our country. The same administration that agreed to annual military spending of $266 billion -- even more than the Pentagon requested -- has made no effort to develop federal programs that could uplift tens of millions of low-income Americans. Instead, the news media are rife with political cliches, the frequent enemies of meaning. Typically, on election night, Cokie Roberts informed ABC's viewers: "The economy is great." Glib generalizations obscure the people who suffer the truth of evasion's consequences. Near the end of his victory speech Tuesday night, Clinton declared: "We proclaim that the vital American center is alive and well." On Wednesday, the White House chief of staff, Leon Panetta, summed up the message from the election returns: "If you want to move forward, move to the vital center." But, routinely, the center is more craven than vital. In the 1950s and 1960s, the center equivocated during the great battles for civil rights. While the Vietnam War took its tragic toll in blood, the anti-war movement grew because the center could not hold. Since then, with issues ranging from the environment to social justice to human rights, the leaden center has been an albatross weighing heavily against progress. Days before the election, Clinton used the motto that another incumbent, Ronald Reagan, made famous: "It's morning in America." Uh-uh. For many of the people shut out of the media fixations, it's mourning in America. The ultra-centrists are fabricating a bridge to the 21st century. _____________________________________________ The above article is this week's "Media Beat" syndicated column by Norman Solomon. "Media Beat" appears in about 20 daily newspapers around the country and on CompuServe. If you like what you read, please contact the editorial page editors at newspapers in your area and urge them to carry the column! (It's distributed to daily papers by Creators Syndicate.) Suggestions from readers have been very effective in getting newspapers to publish "Media Beat" on a regular basis. For more information, send e-mail to . -!- GEcho 1.11+ ! Origin: helix.uucp =FidoNet/Internet= Seattle 206.783.6368 (1:343/70) ... A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SANDMAN To: ALL Subject: Excellent News !!!!! Date: Wed Nov 13 11:32:05 CST 1996 Message number: 35 Reply to message number: unavailable B-1 "Wife Beater" Bob Doran has lost the race and his opponent has declared victory!!!! B-1 "Wife Beater" is of course whining and plans on calling for a congressional investigation of them evil and wicked hispanic voters that help to defeat him. His opponant a hispanic female (Sanchez?) is currently leading by 900 votes and the election results will not be confirmed for a few more days, but Yippy! Yippy! is what I'll be screaming when B-1 has to pack his bags and become the Talk show host from hell! Only bad thing about this is that he is going to beat the shit out of his wife. I hope she calls 911 and B-1 grabs his precious guns and dies in a hail of bullets! Yippy! Yippy! ... B-1 Bob has been bombed! ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SANDMAN To: ALL Subject: Analysis of Texas by Rigt Date: Wed Nov 13 11:32:07 CST 1996 Message number: 36 Reply to message number: unavailable This is some pycho right-wing crap that I recieved. Enjoy! Subject: Texas Family Update (Nov 6, 1996) From: Wyatt Roberts, Executive Director Ashley Callahan, Director of Operations Date: November 6, 1996 -- Wednesday To: Pro-Family Activists ---------------- [ S P E C I A L E D I T I O N ] ------------------------- As you can imagine it's been pretty hectic around here the last couple of days. Our political action committee was involved in races around the state, and since the primary we've done everything we could to ensure that pro-family folks were informed when they walked into the voting booth yesterday. On balance, we believe this was a good year for conservatives, especially in Texas. We hope you find our analysis informative and helpful. But first, we want to share with you some very exciting news about an important project AFA of Texas has been working on since July of this year. Please distribute the following story to as many people as possible. ================================================================ ===> DIAMOND SHAMROCK / STOP N GO TO PULL PORN BY END OF YEAR ================================================================ "It is unfortunate that Diamond Shamrock has decided not to carry the best-selling men's magazine in America (Playboy)." Christie Hefner, chairman of Playboy magazine, commenting in today's Houston Chronicle on Diamond Shamrock's announcement they will remove all pornography by the end of the year. In a major victory for the pro-family movement, the Diamond Shamrock corporation announced yesterday they will remove pornography from all corporate-owned Corner Stores and Stop-N-Go stores by the end of the year. In reporting on the story today (leading the business section), Michael David of the Houston Chronicle wrote: "Sexually explicit men's magazines, such as Playboy and Penthouse...will soon be off the shelves of Texas' largest convenience store chain." AFA efforts to persuade Diamond Shamrock to pull all pornography included 2000-4000 phone calls to DS executives and board members, 28,500 petitions to pro-family folks, and a 17-city "Diamond Shamrock Road Trip" and ad campaign that was scheduled to begin next month. We can't emphasize enough the importance of this great victory. Diamond Shamrock is the #1 convenience chain in Texas with approximately 2,700 stores in eight states. Please visit the following web site to read the letter I received today from Roger Hemminghaus, chairman and CEO of Diamond Shamrock announcing their decision => http://www.afatexas.com/diamond.htm Given this wonderful news, I am pleased to announce that we will officially end our boycott of Diamond Shamrock and Stop N' Go on December 31, 1996 at 11:59 pm  the end of the year, which is when DS has said all of the porn will be removed. In the weeks ahead, I will share more of my thoughts with you on DS's corporate change of heart. I owe a great debt of gratitude to all of you who helped in this effort with your prayers, phone calls, letters, petitions, e-mail messages and financial support. Words cannot fully express my deep appreciation to you. Bless you, my dear friends. Praise the Lord! He is faithful! ... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (S)lap nearest innocent bystander. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SANDMAN To: ALL Subject: Texas anl Date: Wed Nov 13 11:32:08 CST 1996 Message number: 37 Reply to message number: unavailable This is the analysis from this group of the continued downward spiral of Texas towards the Right. NOTE: Dolly Madison McKenna is a life long republican who in 1994 sought to become the the Chairman of the Texas Republican party. She ran against a Christian coalition backed man (?) and lost. While campaigning on the floor of their convention she pleaded with one woman to do what was BEST for the Republican party and this woman responded by saying that she didn't care about the Reb party and only cared about the RR's agenda. Just an interesting side note! -Sandman (Back to those with family values!!!) ================================================================ ==> ELECTION ANALYSIS ================================================================ Yesterday's election brought mixed results for the pro-family movement. While BILL CLINTON, arguably the most anti-family president in history, was reelected, the most pro-family Congress in decades is also returning. Below is our analysis of Texas races: ================================ > STATEWIDE RACES ================================ Statewide: BOB DOLE carried Texas with a comfortable margin. SENATOR PHIL GRAMM was easily reelected and Republicans swept every single statewide race for the first time ever. That could spell big trouble for old-style liberals like BOB BULLOCK in 1998. The GOP now hold a 7-2 majority on the Texas Supreme Court and a 6-3 majority on the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals. ================================ > CONGRESSIONAL RACES - TEXAS ================================ Republicans picked up two congressional seats last night. Philosophically, though, it was a wash. Replacing avowed liberal Democrat JOHN BRYANT in Congress will be PETE SESSIONS of Dallas, a social and fiscal conservative; joining him in DC will be KAY GRANGER of Fort Worth, a Ted-Kennedy-on-social-issues Republican. There are three runoffs in congressional races, the most important being between Republican Congressman STEVE STOCKMAN (R-Friendswood) and NICK LAMPSON (D-Beaumont). Stockman defied the odds by finishing first last night, despite a $3 million negative ad campaign by the AFL-CIO. Solidly Republican District 8 features STATE REP. KEVIN BRADY (R-The Woodlands) and DR. GENE FONTENOT (R-Spring) in a rematch of their hotly contested primary battle of last Spring. In District 25, liberal CONGRESSMAN KEN BENTSEN (D-Houston) faces ultra-liberal Republican DOLLY MADISON McKENNA, a major ally of CECILE "DAUGHTER OF ANN" RICHARDS and statewide anti Christian leader in her own right. ================================ > TEXAS SENATE ================================ There is a temporary 15-15 partisan tie in the Texas Senate. Republicans won an open seat and held onto the seat of STATE SEN. DREW NIXON (R-Carthage). Voters in Senate District 2 barely sent DAVID CAIN back to Austin for four more years, despite a tough challenge from Republican BOB REESE. The partisan balance of the Senate will be determined by a runoff in heavily Republican SD 28. STATE REP. BOB DUNCAN (R-Lubbock) faces Democrat and former Lubbock mayor DAVID LANGSTON in this showdown. National Republican Committeman and Texas Home School Coalition leader TIM LAMBERT, who finished third in the race, said today that he "will most likely endorse Robert Duncan as he is more conservative...in every area." Also, there will have to be a special election to fill the seat of STATE SEN. JIM TURNER (D-Crockett), who was elected to Congress last night. Turner's district is ripe for a GOP victory. ================================== > TEXAS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ================================== As things stand now, Republicans made a 4-seat pickup in the House. They won six formerly Democrat seats, but two incumbent Republicans were beaten. However, several races were decided by margins of 1,000 votes of less, with one race going Democrat by only 70 votes. Expect recounts in several districts. SPEAKER PETE LANEY (D-Hale Center) was reelected with 65% of the vote -- far less than the 80% figure he had predicted. Republican CARL ISSETT of Lubbock won despite a vicious anti-Christian campaign against him by fellow Republicans. ================================== > STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION ================================== Republicans picked up another conservative seat on the SBOE yesterday with the victory of DAVID BRADLEY (R-Beaumont). Incumbent WILL DAVIS (D-Austin) narrowly defeated Republican CHARLIE WEAVER. Conservative dentist RICHARD NEILL (R-Ft. Worth) waltzed to victory yesterday, replacing moderate Republican DIANNE PATRICK in District 11. The State Board of Education now has a 9-6 GOP majority, and 8 of them are reasonably conservative. I predict a move to restrict the powers of SBOE chairman JACK CHRISTIE, the lone liberal Republican. ------- To subscribe to c-news, send the message SUBSCRIBE C-NEWS, or the message UNSUBSCRIBE C-NEWS to unsubscribe, to majordomo@world.std.com. Contact owner-c-news@world.std.com if you have questions. ... I am glad that I don't live in TEXAS! ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAEDALUS RISING To: Sandman Subject: Re: Excellent News !!!!! Date: Wed Nov 13 14:00:48 CST 1996 Message number: 38 Reply to message number: 35 S> B-1 "Wife Beater" Bob Doran has lost the race and his opponent has S> declared victory!!!! I just saw that new on a mailing list I subscribe to, it's good to see that the EMBARRASINGLY STUPID Bob Dornan lost this time around. Dissent is one thing, but he was just a dick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Sandman Subject: Re: Excellent News !!!!! Date: Wed Nov 13 15:11:19 CST 1996 Message number: 39 Reply to message number: 35 S> B-1 "Wife Beater" Bob Doran has lost the race and his opponent has S> declared victory!!!! S> According to the latest news, the vote tally was final, Sanchez had been declared winner, and a taped message on Doran's office answering machine was informing callers that the vote was not final. Makes him a bit less credible when he bashes Clinton, don't it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Sandman Subject: Re: Texas anl Date: Wed Nov 13 15:13:59 CST 1996 Message number: 40 Reply to message number: 37 S> This is the analysis from this group of the continued downward spiral of S> Texas towards the Right. S> S> ... I am glad that I don't live in TEXAS! True, but Florida came through. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SANDMAN To: DAEDALUS RISING Subject: Re: Excellent News !!!!! Date: Wed Nov 20 18:35:49 CST 1996 Message number: 41 Reply to message number: unavailable -=> Quoting Daedalus Rising to Sandman <=- S> B-1 "Wife Beater" Bob Doran has lost the race and his opponent has S> declared victory!!!! DR> I just saw that new on a mailing list I subscribe to, it's good to DR> see that the EMBARRASINGLY STUPID Bob Dornan lost this time around. DR> Dissent is one thing, but he was just a dick. Whoops I spelled Dornan's name wrong! Moron...Doran? It looks like this scum-bag will try to get a new election. He's claiming Voter fraud. He won't give up. Hmmm...Did Boschwitz ever call Wellstone to conceed the election? ... * * * <- Tribbles ** ** ** <- Squared tribbles ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Sandman Subject: Re: Excellent News !!!!! Date: Thu Nov 21 03:53:47 CST 1996 Message number: 42 Reply to message number: 41 S> Whoops I spelled Dornan's name wrong! S> Moron...Doran? S> It looks like this scum-bag will try to get a new election. S> He's claiming Voter fraud. S> He won't give up. Yes, but the side story is watching his opponent moving into his office in Washington, and blithly insisting that she is the Representative, at least unril a recount shows otherwise. :) S> Hmmm...Did Boschwitz ever call Wellstone to conceed the election? Not that I am aware of. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAEDALUS RISING To: Froggy Subject: Re: Excellent News !!!!! Date: Thu Nov 21 11:12:26 CST 1996 Message number: 43 Reply to message number: 42 F> Yes, but the side story is watching his opponent moving into F> his office in Washington, and blithly insisting that she is the F> Representative, at least unril a recount shows otherwise. :) Sorry, he's pulling a fit on this one too: "Rep. Robert K. Dornan (R-CA) is giving up his congressional office space in Washington rather than handing Democrat Loretta Sanchez the prime spot overlooking the U.S. Capitol. "There was no way in hell that I was going to let her occupy this office," he blasted late on Wednesday. Dornan made the decision after learning that the prize office would be held for whomever is declared the winner of the Nov. 5 election. Sanchez leads "B-1" by 665 votes, with 1,300 votes from the 46th Congressional District to be counted on Friday. Sanchez will now be forced to choose from the smaller offices offered to House freshmen..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LUCIUS SULLA To: Daedalus Rising Subject: Re: Senate Debates Date: Mon Nov 25 17:16:41 CST 1996 Message number: 44 Reply to message number: -25 DR> But the nature of the law isn't to arrest people who misuse guns, only tho DR> who illegally carry them. I'd rather see the prisons filled with people who DR> actually commit violent crimes than those who illegally carry a gun - perha DR> even to protect themselves, with no intent of harming anyone. Mr. Rising, I know you have asked me before where would I draw the line on the second amendment. This brilliantly cogent (and pleasantly surprising) statement from you forces me to ask you the same question. Where, with the Constitution being written as it is, would YOU draw the line? Cordially, Lucius Cornelius Sulla ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAEDALUS RISING To: Lucius Sulla Subject: Re: Senate Debates Date: Sat Dec 23 17:29:39 CST 1995 Message number: 45 Reply to message number: 44 LS> I know you have asked me before where would I draw the line on the second LS> amendment. This brilliantly cogent (and pleasantly surprising) statement fr LS> you forces me to ask you the same question. Where, with the Constitution be LS> written as it is, would YOU draw the line? First off, the constitution has nothing to do with it - the Supreme Court has said as much. Since the gun lobby knows damned well that the courts won't protect their percieved "second amendment rights", they go to the court of public opinion instead. So, I don't draw the line anywhere on the second amendment. But as for personal opinion on where the line should be drawn on legislating the use and abuse of weapons, I tend to be rather liberal on the issue ... so long as they have a reasonably legitimate use outside of killing other human beings (not including, of course, defending your home), I don't see why they should be banned. Except for the possibility of gun registration, I think current law as it stands is just about right. Where I draw the line on specific guns isn't something I'm qualified to answer in more than generalities, but basically anything that can kill lots of people quickly (automatics), gratuitously (grendades) or make it easier to kill vested people ("copkiller" bullets) shouldn't be on the streets. But guns that can be used for hunting, protecting the home, etc should not be banned. Does that answer your question? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Daedalus Rising Subject: Re: Senate Debates Date: Sun Dec 24 00:43:43 CST 1995 Message number: 46 Reply to message number: 45 DR> So, I don't draw the line anywhere on the second amendment. But as for DR> personal opinion on where the line should be drawn on legislating the use a DR> abuse of weapons, I tend to be rather liberal on the issue ... so long as DR> they have a reasonably legitimate use outside of killing other human beings DR> (not including, of course, defending your home), I don't see why they shoul DR> be banned. Except for the possibility of gun registration, I think current DR> law as it stands is just about right. DR> DR> Where I draw the line on specific guns isn't something I'm qualified to DR> answer in more than generalities, but basically anything that can kill lots DR> people quickly (automatics), gratuitously (grendades) or make it easier to DR> kill vested people ("copkiller" bullets) shouldn't be on the streets. But DR> guns that can be used for hunting, protecting the home, etc should not be DR> banned. This is basically how I see it, too. I also think that the hunters have made their own choices. Regardless of what the NRA would tell us, I have never met a hunter who used an AK-47. Another thing that a lot of people do not realize is that the law in Minnesotat *is* what people are asking to be intstituted nationwide. In some states, a person can just walk into a gun shop and walk out with a gun and ammo without a background check. In Minnesota, that check is required to find out if he is a felon or mentally ill. BTW, if he is an alien or a felon, the Constitution and the Second Amendment do not apply to him whatever they actually mean. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BIG TEEBO To: All Subject: gingrinch Date: Sat Nov 30 10:45:58 CST 1996 Message number: 47 Reply to message number: unavailable Does anybody know what Newt Gingrich is up to these days? He was a huge media star for awhile, but a few months ago he disappeared completly... Why? *teebo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Big Teebo Subject: Re: gingrinch Date: Sun Dec 01 09:38:40 CST 1996 Message number: 48 Reply to message number: 47 BT> Does anybody know what Newt Gingrich is up to these days? He was a huge me BT> star for awhile, but a few months ago he disappeared completly... Why? BT> He is still there (in Congress, that is.} He was reelected, but there ia a lot of action to replace him as Speaker of the House. The inteligence that I have heard is that he will not be replaced, but has been toned down because association with him cost a lot of Republican offices in the last election. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STARFIRE To: Big Teebo Subject: Re: gingrinch Date: Wed Dec 25 16:29:44 CST 1996 Message number: 49 Reply to message number: 47 BT> Does anybody know what Newt Gingrich is up to these days? He was a huge me BT> star for awhile, but a few months ago he disappeared completly... Why? All I know about him is that when Jim Henson "died" he really went underground and is now running Newt's hair. Notice that most all government officials have been replaced by muppets and that is why nobody ever sees their feet when they get off planes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE THE LUCKY To: Big Teebo Subject: Re: gingrinch Date: Thu Dec 26 15:09:11 CST 1996 Message number: 50 Reply to message number: 47 BT> Does anybody know what Newt Gingrich is up to these days? He was a huge me BT> star for awhile, but a few months ago he disappeared completly... Why? Gingrich is lying low these days, praying that the House Ethics Committee won't take his Speakership away from him. It seems that Newt wasn't entirely forthcoming about the relationship between his "To Renew America" broadcast class and GOPAC (Gingrich's Own Political Action Committee). I can't think of the specific violations of federal law right now, but it has something to do with the fact that Gingrich's course has been identified as a "partisan political activity" (i.e.: Republican brainwashing), and thus received a fair amount of money illegally. Newt also changed his story a few times about the relationship, so he's potentially in the soup for lying to Congress. As for Gingrich's Speakership, there are three possible "punishments" for Newt's crime; reprimand, censure, and expulsion. Reprimand means nothing; your basic "slap on the wrist". Expulsion is pretty self-explanatory. Censure is actually the same punishment Joe McCarthy received for his "Red-baiting"; the kicker is that a censured Congressman cannot hold a Congressional office--Newt would have to resign as Speaker if censured. Even more interesting is the fact that, when Gingrich was Republican minority whip, he spearheaded the ethics investigation that eventually forced the sitting Democratic Speaker at the time to resign in disgrace. Getting a bit of his own medicine, Newt is. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Dave The Lucky Subject: Re: gingrinch Date: Fri Dec 27 01:27:40 CST 1996 Message number: 51 Reply to message number: 50 DT> the specific violations of federal law right now, but it has something to d DT> with the fact that Gingrich's course has been identified as a "partisan DT> political activity" (i.e.: Republican brainwashing), and thus received a fa DT> amount of money illegally. Newt also changed his story a few times about t DT> relationship, so he's potentially in the soup for lying to Congress. DT> He accepted money from education-based non-profits. The money was tax-free, and intended for non-partisan use. I have also been hearing that he didn't exactly report all of it to the IRS. DT> whip, he spearheaded the ethics investigation that eventually forced the DT> sitting Democratic Speaker at the time to resign in disgrace. Getting a bi DT> of his own medicine, Newt is. :) Wright, wasn't it? I don't know -- so far, Newt has seemed to be another "teflon" politician. While Clinton was being berated and investigated because of his private life, Newt treated his wife who was in the hospital with breast cancer miserably, and had not really suffered much for ir. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAEDALUS RISING To: Dave The Lucky Subject: Re: gingrinch Date: Sat Dec 28 16:26:18 CST 1996 Message number: 52 Reply to message number: 50 DT> Even more interesting is the fact that, when Gingrich was Republican minor DT> whip, he spearheaded the ethics investigation that eventually forced the DT> sitting Democratic Speaker at the time to resign in disgrace. Getting a bi DT> of his own medicine, Newt is. :) THere's a good quote from Gingrich about having to hold Speakers to a higher standard than other House members ... which, of course, he has completely ran away from since he became Speaker :-) DT> amount of money illegally. Newt also changed his story a few times about t DT> relationship, so he's potentially in the soup for lying to Congress. But at least he's bneing honst about it now. So what if Newt slipped up a bit, you know how complicated those damned Federal regulations adn campaign finance laws are! The Democrats are just out for blood, they'll take *any little thing they can get* and blow it out of proportion just to get Newt! (I've been listening to too much Limabaugh, methinks). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAEDALUS RISING To: All Subject: Corruption Date: Thu Jan 16 08:02:51 CST 1997 Message number: 53 Reply to message number: unavailable THere's been a lot of news coverage lately of the various "scandals" that have been exposed here after the election ... Newt's college course, Clinton and Gore's shady fundrasing, etc. What are all your opinions on it, does it just mean that they're all corrupt bastards or what? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE THE LUCKY To: Daedalus Rising Subject: Re: Corruption Date: Thu Jan 16 15:28:55 CST 1997 Message number: 54 Reply to message number: 53 DR> THere's been a lot of news coverage lately of the various "scandals" that DR> have been exposed here after the election ... Newt's college course, Clinto DR> and Gore's shady fundrasing, etc. What are all your opinions on it, does it DR> just mean that they're all corrupt bastards or what? I hate to have to admit it, Daedalus, but the whole thing just bores me. I was a teenager during the Reagan years, and I grew up watching my elected officials lie, cheat, and steal their way to the top. Jimmy Carter is still a personal hero of mine, largely because, at 13, I couldn't understand why more people didn't realize that he was telling the truth. Now I know that people did know, but they didn't like it. So long as the "general public" (myself included) continues to vote for self-serving politicians who only say what the public wants to hear, the situation won't improve. The good news is that, given the current attitude about term limits, there might come a day when none of them will stay in office long enough to do any serious damage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAEDALUS RISING To: Dave The Lucky Subject: Re: Corruption Date: Thu Jan 16 16:48:20 CST 1997 Message number: 55 Reply to message number: 54 DT> So long as the "general public" (myself included) continues to vote for DT> self-serving politicians who only say what the public wants to hear, the DT> situation won't improve. The good news is that, given the current attitude DT> about term limits, there might come a day when none of them will stay in DT> office long enough to do any serious damage. The problem with term limits as a solution, though, is that all they do is kick out the current officeholders and get new ones in. What's good is that you get rid of the bad legislators, and the ones who uaed to be good. What's bad is that you get rid of the guys who actually know somethiung, you get rid of the institutional memory of the place, so the neophytes are all left to trusting in the knowledge of staff and lovvyists instead of the info buried in their own skull. DT> I hate to have to admit it, Daedalus, but the whole thing just bores me. I It tends to bore me too, which is not a bad thing. Reading Nazi war documents would bore me too, but that doesn't make the crimes any less severe. I don't think anything is going to get better till we get at least some of the money out of politics ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FROGGY To: Daedalus Rising Subject: Re: Corruption Date: Fri Jan 17 06:36:15 CST 1997 Message number: 56 Reply to message number: 53 DR> THere's been a lot of news coverage lately of the various "scandals" that DR> have been exposed here after the election ... Newt's college course, Clinto DR> and Gore's shady fundrasing, etc. What are all your opinions on it, does it DR> just mean that they're all corrupt bastards or what? I think a Clinton lackey on Talking Heads Sunday put it well: Accusations do not convictions make. He was kind enough not to mention the other thing I was thinking -- that Newt's public and IRS records may hoist him by his own petard. The big news this morning is that the Ethics Committee has released a huge document with its recommendations about him. I haven't heard anything more about it, but I can't wait to see it. Are you going to the Inauguration? :) As far as the fundraising thing, it seems to me that there are major problems with that in most parties, and at all levels. I think it is PAST time for major campaign spending reform. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAEDALUS RISING To: Froggy Subject: Re: Corruption Date: Fri Jan 17 14:46:20 CST 1997 Message number: 57 Reply to message number: 56 F> by his own petard. The big news this morning is that the Ethics Committee F> has released a huge document with its recommendations about him. I haven't F> heard anything more about it, but I can't wait to see it. Found something on the internet related to all this, I'l post it in a moment here. F> Are you going to the Inauguration? :) Nope, wasn't invited, wouldn't really want to go ... not worth the money. If I want to see corrupt and unethical people swear to be honest and ethical, Idon't have to go to Wahington for that. I know several people who are going though, pick your own poison I guess. F> As far as the fundraising thing, it seems to me that there are majo F> problems with that in most parties, and at all levels. I think it is PAST F> time for major campaign spending reform. I like the Cato institute-style response, "we spend more on junk food than we do pn political campaigns". Therefore, of course, we don't spend too much on campaigns because they're more important than junk food. I guess they never took a mathematics course, or went to the trouble to divide the money amoungst the cantidates (as opposed to diviging it amoungst all the people, whether or not they run for office). Looked at that way, it's a hell of a lot of money able to corrupt a very few people. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAEDALUS RISING To: All Subject: Summary of newt's foibles Date: Fri Jan 17 14:51:22 CST 1997 Message number: 58 Reply to message number: unavailable House Ethics: Statement Of Alleged Violation By Gingrich The House Of Representatives Committee On Standards Of Official Conduct, known as The Ethics Committee, released this list of alleged rules violated by House Speaker Newt Gingrich. The speaker admitted to each of the charges. Saturday, Dec. 21, 1996 © PoliticsNow 1. At all times relevant to this Statement of Alleged Violation, Newt Gingrich was a Member of the United States House of Representatives representing the Sixth District of Georgia. 2. At all times relevant to this Statement of Alleged Violation, GOPAC was a political action committee within the meaning of section 527 of the Internal Revenue Code dedicated to, among other things, achieving Republican control of the United States House of Representatives. 3. GOPAC's methods for accomplishing the goal described in paragraph 2 included the development of a political message to appeal to voters and the dissemination of that message as widely as possible. As stated in a draft document dated November 1, 1989, entitled "GOPAC IN THE 1990s:" [GOPAC's] role is to both create and disseminate the doctrine of a majority Republican party. The creation of a new doctrine is essentially a research function, involving the development of new ideas at the strategic, operational and tactical level. Strategic doctrine, in this context, consists of the language, policies and programs that will define the caring, humanitarian, reform Republican agenda of the 1990s. Operational doctrine consists of the political message and image which will attract voters and elect state and local candidates in support of this new agenda. And, tactical doctrine consists of the specific political techniques Republicans will use to win elections and enact governing conservative policies. (emphasis in the original). The document then states: As important as the creation of the new doctrine is its dissemination. During the 1980s GOPAC and Newt Gingrich have led the way in applying new technology, from C-SPAN to video tapes, to disseminate information to Republican candidates and political activists. * * * But the Mission Statement demands that we do much more. To create the level of change needed to become a majority, the new Republican doctrine must be communicated to a broader audience, with greater frequency, in a more usable form. GOPAC needs a bigger "microphone." (emphasis in the original). 4. From in or about September 1986 through in or about May 1995, Mr. Gingrich was General Chairman of GOPAC. In that capacity he determined the messages GOPAC used to accomplish its goals. 5. In a document entitled "Kev Factors in a House GOP Majoritv," Mr. Gingrich wrote the following: 1. The fact that 50% of all potential voters are currently outside politics (non-voters) creates the possibility that a new appeal might alter the current balance of political power by bringing in a vast number of new voters. 3. It is possible to articulate a vision of "an America that can be" which is appealing to most Americans, reflects the broad values of a governing conservatism (basic American values, entrepreneurial Free Enterprise and Technological progress), and is very difficult for the Democrats to co-opt because of their ideology and their interest groups. 4. It is more powerful and more effective to develop a reform movement parallel to the official Republican Party because: a. the news media will find it more interesting and cover it more often and more favorably; b. the non-voters who are non-political or anti-political will accept a movement more rapidly than they will accept an established party; * * * 6. The objective measurable goal is the maximum growth of news coverage of our vision and ideas, the maximum recruitment of new candidates, voters and resources, and the maximum electoral success in winning seats from the most local office to the White House and then using those victories to implement the values of a governing conservatism and to create the best America that can be. 6. In early 1990 GOPAC developed and carried out a project called American Opportunities Workshop ("AOW"). It consisted of producing and broadcasting a television program centered on a citizens' movement to reform government. The movement was based on three tenants [sic]: 1. Basic American Values; 2. Entrepreneurial Free Enterprise; and 3. Technological Progress. The project also involved the recruitment of activists to set up local workshops around the broadcast in order to recruit people to the movement. The project was Mr. Gingrich's idea and he had a high level of involvement in it. 7. While AOW was described as being non-partisan, mailings sent by GOPAC to its supporters described AOW as having partisan, political goals. One letter sent over Mr. Gingrich's name stated the following: [W]e'll be reaching voters with our message, and helping drive down to the state and local level our politics of realignment. Through the use of satellite hook-ups, not only can we reach new groups of voters not traditionally associated with our Party, but we'll be able to give them our message straight, without it being filtered and misinterpreted by liberal elements in the media. The letter ended with the following: I truly believe that our Party and our President stand on the verge of a tremendous success this year, and that this workshop can be a great election year boost to us. 8. AOW consumed a large portion of GOPAC's financial resources during 1990. After one program the funding and operation of the project was transferred, with Mr. Gingrich's knowledge and approval, to the Abraham Lincoln Opportunity Foundation ("ALOF"), a corporation with a tax-exempt status under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code. ALOF operated out of GOPAC's offices. Its officers consisted of Howard Callaway, the Chairman of GOPAC, and Kay Riddle, Executive Director of GOPAC. In addition, the people who were listed as working for ALOF were GOPAC employees or consultants. ALQI: raised and expended taxdeductible charitable contributions to carry out the project. 9. At ALOF the project was called American Citizens' Television ("ACTV") and had the same goals as AOW. It was also based on the three tenants of Basic American Values, Entrepreneurial Free Enterprise, and Technological Progress and involved the recruiting of activists to set up local workshops around the broadcast to recruit people to the citizens' movement. In a letter sent by GOPAC over Mr. Gingrich's name, ACTV was described as follows: I am excited about progress of the "American Citizen's Television" project, which will carry the torch of citizen activism begun by our American Opportunities Workshop on May l9th. We mobilized thousands of people across the nation at the grass roots level who as a result of AOW, are now dedicated GOPAC activists. We are making great strides in continuing to recruit activists all across America to become involved with the Republican party. Our efforts are literally snowballing into the activist movement we need to win in '92. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARING DIANE J. To: Daedalus Rising Subject: Re: Corruption Date: Wed Jan 29 07:21:32 CST 1997 Message number: 59 Reply to message number: 53 What this means is that you cannot trust people who belong to the old system. Here's my plug for folks to support a new system, the Green Party. The Green Party wants campaign finance reform and to return the system to a democracy--that is, giving people back the power to govern themselves. Let's end corporate rule. Become Green. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAEDALUS RISING To: DARING DIANE J. Subject: Re: Corruption Date: Wed Jan 29 12:37:16 CST 1997 Message number: 60 Reply to message number: unavailable -=> Quoting Daring Diane J. : DDJ> What this means is that you cannot trust people who belong to the old DDJ> system. Here's my plug for folks to support a new system, the Green DDJ> Party. The Green Party wants campaign finance reform and to return DDJ> the system to a democracy--that is, giving people back the power to DDJ> govern themselves. Let's end corporate rule. DDJ> Become Green. Why the Green party - why not Progressive Minnesota, the Labor party, or the Socialist Workers or something? What's different about the Greens? ... Eat the rich. The poor are tough and stringy. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SANDMAN To: ALL Subject: Politics Date: Sun Apr 27 19:42:10 CDT 1997 Message number: 61 Reply to message number: unavailable :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::: The First Amendment Teach-In :::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: __________ _________ __________ _________ / // / // //\ / /________ // / // // \ / / // / // // \ / / //_________ / //________// \/ __________ / / / / /_____/ / / / \ / / / \ / / #1 ____________________________________________________________________ Here is an excerpt from a recent issue of _Extra! Update_, a periodical from Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR), a New York-based media watchdog organization. On page 3 of the February 1995 issue, FAIR reprinted a memo from GOPAC, a conservative organization. At the core of GOPAC's memo are two lists of persuasive words (see below). These words can be used by First Amendment defenders who pen letters to the editor, guest editorials, and speeches. Here's how to do it. Write your commentary. The purpose of this first draft is to put your main ideas onto paper. Do not burden yourself with producing polished copy. During your subsequent rewrite, associate some of the the words from the first list with people who oppose artist's rights or separation of church and state. Then associate First Amendment liberties and First Amendment defenders with one or two of the words from the second list. It is tempting to load up your editorial with too many adjectives. Do not make that mistake. Effective writing is concise and com- municative. (begin excerpt) the clearest expression of Gingrich's philosophy of media came in a GOPAC memo entitled "Language: A Key Mechanism of Control." Distributed to GOP candidates across the country, the memo's list of words for Democrats and words for Republicans was endorsed by Gingrich in a cover letter: "The words in that paper are tested language from a recent series of focus groups where we actually tested ideas and language." (content deleted) LANGUAGE: A KEY MECHANISM OF CONTROL As you know, one of the key points in the GOPAC tapes is that "language matters." In the video "We Are a Majority," Language is listed as a key mechanism of control used by a majority party, along with Agenda, Rules, Attitude, and Learning. As the tapes have been used in training sessions across the country and mailed to candidates, we have heard a plaintive plea: "I wish I could speak like Newt." That takes years of practice. But we believe that you could have a significant impact on your campaign and the way you communicate if we help a little. That is why we have created this list of words and phrases. This list is prepared so that you might have a directory of words to use in writing literature and mail, in preparing speeches, and in producing electronic media. The words and phrases are powerful. Read them. Memorize as many as possible. And remember that, like any tool, these words will not help if they are not used... CONTRASTING WORDS Often we search hard for words to help us define our opponents. Sometimes we are hesitant to use contrast. Remember that creating a difference helps you. These are powerful words that can create a clear and easily understood contrast. Apply these to the opponent, their record, proposals and their party. decay...failure (fail)...collapse(ing)...deeper...crisis...urgent(cy)... destructive...destroy...sick...pathetic...lie...liberal...they/them... unionized bureaucracy..."compassion" is not enough...betray... consequences...limit(s)...shallow...traitors...sensationalists... endanger...coercion...hypocrisy...radical...threaten...devour... waste...corruption...incompetent...permissive attitudes...destructive... impose...self-serving...greed...ideological...insecure...anti-(issue): flag, family, child, jobs...pessimistic...excuses...intolerant... stagnation...welfare...corrupt...selfish...insensitive...status quo... mandate(s)...taxes...spend(ing)...shame...disgrace...punish (poor...)... bizarre...cynicism...cheat...steal...abuse of power...criminal rights... red tape...patronage OPTIMISTIC POSITIVE GOVERNING WORDS Use the list below to help you define your campaign and your vision of public service. These words can help give you extra power to your message. In addition, these words help develop the positive side of the contrast you should create with your opponent, giving your community something to vote ! share...change...opportunity...legacy...challenge...control...truth... moral...courage...reform...prosperity...crusade...movement...children... family...debate...compete...active(ly)...we/us/our...candid(ly)... humane...pristine...provide... liberty...commitment...principle(d)...unique...duty...precious... premise...care(ing)...tough...listen...learn...help...lead...vision... success...empower(ment)...citizen...activist...mobilize...conflict... light...dream...freedom... peace...rights...pioneer...proud/pride...building...preserve... pro-(issue): flag, children, environment...reform...workfare...eliminate good-time in prison...strength...choice/choose...fair...protect... confident...incentive...hard work...initiative...common sense...passionate (end excerpt) A C C E S S ======================================================================= If you have your own e-mail address, then you can receive _First Amend- ment Update_ and other Action Kits. 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